Wipler: “Kaczyński declared war on us; advisors convinced him that there would be a thousand-year-old PiSów crowd again”

The conflict between the Law and Justice and the Confederacy enters a fresh phase, culminating in an open political war, according to Przemysław Wipler. In the latest interview with Polsat News, a Confederate MP does not talk in words. Criticizes the actions of Jarosław Kaczyński, analyses the tensions around president Karol Nawrocki and warns that the actions of the Law and Justice Office are aimed at dividing his formation.

Hurraoptimism to the US? Wipler reduces emotions

It started with geopolitics. In an interview with Polsat News Wipler he critically referred to enthusiastic reactions after the visit of president Karol Nawrocki to the United States:

– I am amazed by this hurraoptimism, the hurraentusism after the visit of Karol Nawrocki to Washington, D.C., due to the fact that the fact is that Americans have serious problems all over the world.

In his opinion, present the US focuses not on Europe, but on competing with China:

– For them, strategical is what happens in Asia, between them and China, and from this position they besides look at Central Europe, their relations with Poland, the Russian Federation. And that's not good news for us.

Although he appreciated the announcements regarding the presence of US troops in Poland, he stressed that they could not be considered as a certainty:

– It's important, it's reassuring, but for now, it's just a preview. Let us remind you that in many respects this is simply a very inconsistent administration. They said something different many times, and a day later they did something different. It's worth being careful.

President of the “mental Confederate”

The most powerful echo was the diagnosis of the Confederacy's relation with the Presidential Palace:

– In Warsaw, the alleged city is said to be a spiritual, intellectual Confederate [...] This was to be said by government politicians after the Cabinet Council (...). This belief is besides in the PiS.

As he explained, this unexpected political proximity to the Confederate and president Charles Nawrocki caused concern in the PiS:

– He saw that there was a president who was much more right than the Law and Justice in many ways... Jarosław Kaczyński was frightened by the consequence of the presidential election.

According to Wipler, the PiS noted a serious threat from a younger, dynamic electorate:

– All the right-wing youth voted for the Confederacy and began to convince their parents and grandparents.

For this reason, the leader of the PiS decided to clearly cut the ties between the formations:

– Jarosław Kaczyński decided to apply the strategy of cutting off very strongly, mental, image of these 2 formations (...) In politics, if you're closer to someone, but you're the younger, faster, unencumbered 8 years of government and you're talking to a certain electorate, then you gotta build up these differences and accent them hard to block the drain of your electorate.

“Kaczyński declared war on us”

Przemysław Wipler does not beat around the bush – according to him there was an open clash:

- Yes, of course. The full declaration he gave us... was to begin the cut-off.

He besides explained what would be an inflammatory point:

– The declaration of war was a declaration by the president of the Law and Justice Office, in which he wanted us to sign something that is 90% of our programme and 90% is incompatible with the practice of the Law and Justice (....) It's like they're doing it and they're trying to get us to be Confederate.

Prohibition of private contacts and the “thousand-year-old writing crowd”

Wipler betrayed the scenes of Jarosław Kaczyński's actions in relations with the Confederation:

– (Kaczyński) excluded his fellow Members on a private level of gathering and fraternizing with Confederates, sharing... That is what the PiS MPs are telling us. They are simply telling us that Kaczyński's advisors convinced him that there would be a “thousand-year-old written crowd” again, that the independent majority (in the Sejm – ed.) is just right.

An effort to break the Confederate?

According to the MP, the next step of the Law and Justice could be to break the Confederacy from within. This is due to the division between the wing of fresh Hope Sławomir Mentzen and the National Movement of Krzysztof Bosak. But Wipler points out that the plan is improbable to succeed:

– Our colleagues from the National Movement are people of large memory and they remember perfectly well what it was like between 2005 and 2007 in a coalition with Jarosław Kaczyński (...) If individual hurts you as a very young person, you remember that for life. How brutally they were wronged, what this policy, which Sławomir Mentzen called a “political gang” (...), our colleagues remember very well.

"Women dream"? Confederation Government

At the end, Wipler shared his imagination of the future:

– I am convinced that in 2 years we will be united in negotiating a coalition or a non-coalic government... The option of the dream formation is the government with its own Prime Minister.

Wipler's statements end a certain phase of the illusion that the Law and the Confederation are “two right-wings of the same Poland”. In fact, they disagree in their style, generation, history, and now – more and more clearly – besides their political interest.

In the last period of the census, the Confederates have shown a large deal of variation, but the overall trend can be described as somewhat decreasing with jumps. At the beginning of the second half of August, the Confederate peaked in support – 17.3% in the United Surveys survey for WP.pl. It was the best score in months and a signal that the organization could gain the name of the main force on the right. However, further polls (CBOS, investigation Partner) showed a clear drop to 11–12%. At the end of August, there was a reflection – in 2 IBRiS studies, the Confederate gained 14.4% and 15.1%, suggesting that the earlier decline could be temporary. However, in the latest polls from the turn of August and September (United Surveys, SE.pl) the support oscillates again around 12–13%.

This indicates temporary weakness from earlier height. Although the organization inactive has a solid foundation among the young right-wing electorate, the instability may consequence from interior tensions, PiS attacks or the deficiency of expressive media offensive. Now the Confederacy loses momentum, but not support – it balances at the border of its hard electorate.