Human soap

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Comment on the movie that was posted on the fb website on 4 February: "read".

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On 17 February this movie gained nearly 2.5 1000 sages and 146 1000 views

The description under the movie is as follows:

During planet War II, no soap mill existed. There are no documents, orders or evidence to support the industrial production of specified ‘soap’.
However, soap appears in this story, but in a completely different form than it functions in general consciousness.
Firstly, there was a war soap marked with the abbreviation RIF, which was a simple, low-quality substitute product. This abbreviation was misinterpreted, which favored the formation and perpetuation of myth.
Second: a single, pseudo-scientific experimentation utilizing human fat was conducted in Gdańsk. It was not production, it was neither industrial nor practical and was clearly assessed as a crime after the war.
Straightening this story is not an effort to mitigate the image of Nazi crimes. On the contrary. Separating facts from falsehood is essential to talk of the Holocaust honestly and honestly.
History doesn't request sensational simplifications. He needs precision.

Who says "soap" of people had "industrial meaning"? Nobody says that, at least I don't know anything about it.

How does the author of the description know that "a single, pseudo-scientific experimentation utilizing human fat was carried out" ?

Even researchers don't know that. How do you know that?

According to investigation results, kaolin was added to "soap" from human fat - i.e. abrasive material, which suggests applicable usage (for cleaning, washing) and thus confirms evidence of witnesses. According to IPN findings "First batch produced with 75 kg fat" - which gave about 10 kilos of soap. So it wasn't a single case, and the number wasn't "incidental"...

In addition - in the room, there was a recipe for "soap" on the wall - as if it was utilized for a longer time - according to the evidence it lasted at least a fewer months.

According to the IPN message - "Soap" was produced "for use".

If, as the author claims, it was "a single, pseudo-scientific experiment" , what was the intent of producing 10 - 20 kg "soap" from human fat? What was the intent of an experimentation lasting many months and requiring - a large amount of corpses, machines for "robbing" bodies, for what intent was the obtained "soap" cut into cubes?

"In planet War II, no soap mill existed"

We don't know that for sure. I'm tracking things on this blog.

"Second: a single, pseudo-scientific experimentation utilizing human fat was conducted in Gdańsk. It was not production, it was neither industrial nor practical and was clearly assessed as a crime after the war."

The movie says, "used to wash surfaces and section tables" - so the applicable dimension was - the description under the movie does not agree with the content of the film.

It wasn't an experiment. It was a desecration of the corpse.

Desecrating a corpse is simply a crime, Not a crime.

Who says that "soap" from humans was produced by Germans on an "industrial", "mass" scale?

This is the opinion of those assisting in this production - I'm putting the threads below that.

Just a reminder:

factory

[Lat. fabrica ‘craft workshop’], econ. form of industrial production organization based on device work;

Historically, the establishment of factories marked a shift from hand-made production of manufacturers to mechanized production, based on method inventions (industrial revolution); the introduction of fresh technologies, computerization, progressive integration of processes causes both the organisation of the manufacturing process itself and the way it is managed; modern method and organisational solutions are being introduced on an expanding scale, which change the image of modern factories, specified as flexible production systems or group technology.

‘on a mass scale’: large, large quantities

The 2004 IPN position and the 2006 survey result:

In April 1945, immediately after the business of Gdańsk by the russian army, representatives of the Polish administration began securing buildings and property of a number of local institutions including the Medical Academy. The state of the Anatomy Institute's premises was of peculiar interest. According to experts, evidence has been found to give emergence to suspicion that there has been activity in it that has nothing to do with technological and teaching work. These hypotheses were confirmed by the investigator Alexy Opiński, a erstwhile worker of the Academy who returned to work and declared that the Institute produced soap from human fat. Among another things, the russian commandant of the city was informed. There it was remembered that She was previously approached by Sigismund Mazur a preparation employed at the Anatomy Institute, who offered to resume the production of soap from human fat. At the time, he was not taken seriously and dismissed. Later, however, the Polish safety authorities decided to halt it. At the same time, A. Opiński was detained and while searching his apartment, “soap” cubes were secured. 3 commissions, consisting of representatives of the Polish authorities and the russian Army with the participation of experts in the field of forensic medicine, examined the Institute's buildings in item from 4, 13 and 16 to 17 May 1945.

During the latter, the number of bodies was determined to be 148, of which 82 were headless. Additionally, 89 heads and a very large number of corpse fragments and bones were discovered in all the rooms. An autopsy was carried out - an examination of 18 dead bodies and it was found that 15 people died of violent death (8 by guillotine, 4 by asphyxiation, and 3 by blunt force wound to the head). Skin, ankle, intermediate and ‘Soap’ recipe, but failed to find papers related to the recording of the recovered corpses. A complementary detailed photographic documentation was prepared on 8 May.

During the hearing, Zygmunt Mazur stated that Prof. R. Spanner had recommended the accumulation of human fat obtained during the section and preparation of the corpse since autumn 1943. The first batch was produced from 75 kg of fat according to a recipe obtained from an assistant prof. in February 1944. Prof. R. Spanner took the product. The production of soap was kept secret and only any trusted staff of the Institute knew it. It was utilized to wash hands, sect tables, and another orderwork. Its quality and usability did not rise any objections. The only drawback was the unpleasant smell, which is why Prof. R. Spanner tried to add fragrances, specified as almond oil. The second batch of soap was to be produced in February 1945, so after the manager of the Institute left for Halle. Zygmunt Mazur died of typhus at the Gdańsk infirmary on 10.07.1945.

Secured samples of “soap” and skin lobes were tested at the Institute of Judicial Experts in Krakow and the State Hygiene Department in Łódź. Experts in the opinions issued identified the substances as soap or its intermediate and the skin as human not subject to the tanning process. However, the state of cognition did not let for the recognition of fat as a component of the ‘product’.

In Gdańsk, soap from human fat was produced during the war

13-10-2006

At the Institute of Anatomy of the Medical Academy in Gdańsk, run by German prof. Rudolf Spanner, produced during planet War II for commercial purposes soap from human fat— follows the completed investigation of the Branch Crime Investigation Commission against the Polish Nation in Gdańsk.

The manager of the Main Commission for the Investigation of Crimes against the Polish Nation Witold Kulesza said on Friday during a press conference that the facts given in the book by Zofia Nalkowska Medalion were confirmed.

[...]

An investigation conducted since September 2002 by the Gdańsk IPN showed that soap produced by Prof. Spanner was utilized to wash rooms and sect tables. Since it had a bad smell, as witnesses testified, almond oil was added to it. It was established that Spanner's crew was able to produce between a twelve and a fewer twelve kilograms of soap from human bodies.

An investigator from Gdańsk IPN managed to scope the soap produced by Spanner, which was 1 of the evidence of the Nazi crimes during the Nuremberg trial between November 1945 and October 1946. It turned out that the soap jar is now stored along with the full documentation of the Nuremberg process in the archive of the global Court of Justice in The Hague.

Research of the preserved part of soap was conducted by prof. Andrzej Stołyhwo from the School of the General School of the Village Farm (SGGW) in Warsaw, specializing in fat chemistry.

The Table explained at a press conference that during the melting of human corpses made e.g. in order to get bones for educational purposes for medical students, soap from human fat is produced naturally.

An expert example of soap from the archive of the global Court of Justice in The Hague performed by Tablehwo However, it showed that kaolin was added to it. This abrasive makes soap suitable for use. “For me, this is simply a violation of ethical principles,” added prof. of Warsaw SGGW.

Prosecutor Piotr Niesyn of the Branch Crime Investigation Commission against the Polish Nation in Gdańsk said that during the investigation into Spanner's activities Over 20 fresh witnesses have come forward.Among others, Polish soldiers, militiamen and prisoners from Stutthof concentration camp. Investigators besides had documentation from the examination of the Institute of Anatomy of the Medical Academy in Gdańsk, conducted by the Polish-Soviet commission just after the liberation of Gdańsk in the spring of 1945.

In the course of the investigation, 1 of the three-city journalists of the IPN besides received a bronze-colored soap cube from the Institute of Anatomy of the Medical Academy in Gdańsk. The writer got this soap from a dead worker of this facility. Researched by Prof. Stołyhwo showed akin chemical properties as samples from the Hague. (PAP)

Zofia Nałkowska - "Medalions"

Professor Spanner

- the words about the mill may affect the number of corpses found at the Institute:

"We passed 1 after another swimming pools full of dead, and both abroad gentlemen besides walked and watched. They were doctors and they understood better than we did. For the Anatomy Institute at the university, a supply of fourteen bodies would be enough. There were 3 100 and fifty."

- soap mill made of human fat:

"In the afternoon we called both old doctors professors, Spanner's colleagues, for questioning. The talks took place within their area of work, in an empty area of 1 of the infirmary buildings.
Both — examined separately — have declared that there is simply a building that houses a hidden soap factory, They didn't know. They watched it for the first time this morning and this view impressed them with a shocking impression."

- industrial production is based on the usage of machinery - a description based on evidence - and the sole evidence of the production assistant "Soap" from human fat:

This authoritative was finished in 1943 for the Firehouse. Spanner then tried to get machines for separating meat and fat from bones. The bones were expected to be made of skeletons. In 1944, prof. Spanner ordered students to put the fat from the dead separately. all night, after the students left, the workers took the plates with the fat. There were besides plates with veins and meat. So the meat was thrown out or smoked. But people in town complained to the police, so then the prof. told them to smoke at night due to the fact that there was besides much smell.

Students were besides told to subtract the skin completely cleanly, then the fat was clean, then, according to the preparation book, the muscles up to the bone. The fat chosen by the workers from the plates later remained lying all winter, and later, as the students were leaving, was made for 5 or six days of soap.

— The soap from the prescription always worked. It only failed once. The last thing that lay on the table in the smoke store is not successful. Manufacture of soap It was held in the Firehouse. He was the producer Dr. Spanner himself with the older von Bergen. With what he drove to the dead. Did I ride with him? Yes, sir. I only drove twice. And to prison in Gdansk once.

The bodies were coming forward from the madhouse, But then there weren't adequate bodies. Then Spanner He wrote everywhere to the mayors, He'll send the Instinct for the body. They were bringing from Stutthoffu, from the camp, from the Rabbit. to the death of the sentenced, from Elbląg, from all over Pomerania. It's only erstwhile they set up in a Gdańsk prison guillotineThat was adequate dead bodies...

They were mostly Polish dead. But erstwhile there were besides German soldiers, beheaded in prison during the ceremony. And erstwhile they brought 4 or 5 dead and the name was Russian."

"No 1 was expected to know about soap production. Spanner forbids even students to speak."

"But all day access to production had a boss, an older pen, me and 2 workers, Germans. Soap ready was taken by Dr. Spanner and he had it."

" Then we had to cut... And Spanner locked the soap. It wasn't just soap, The device was standing there. We went in five. And the others had to ask for the key erstwhile they wanted to come in.
Why was that a secret?
He's been reasoning about it longer. He wants to respond to the best of his knowledge.
— possibly Spanner was frightened or something, considering focus. — My thought is that If individual found out civilian in the city, possibly it would be a mess..."

"-- What students? Just like us. Everyone was afraid of washing soap at first... The disgust was soap. The odor was bad. prof. Spanner He tried so hard to make it stop. He wrote to chemical plants to send the oils. But it always felt like it wasn't that kind of soap.
- Yes, I told you at home... At first, even 1 friend saw: I had the thrill of washing it. At home, Mom got sick too. But it was soapy, so she utilized it to wash. I got utilized to it due to the fact that it was good..."

"When asked if they knew Spanner from his technological work, they could presume that he was a man capable of making soap from the bodies of dead convicts and captives, but each answered differently. [...]
“Yes, I could have guessed it if I had known that I had been ordered to. It was known that he was a criminal associate of the party. [...]
- Yes, I could have guessed. For this reason, Germany experienced a large deficiency of fat at the time. Well in view of the economical state of the country, for the sake of the state, he could have made him do so."

So who says the "sauce" of humans was produced by Germans on an "industrial", "mass" scale? This is the opinion of those assisting in this production.

Today, the words "factory", "massiness" and "industrial production" are associated with powerful large-scale factories, frequently covering hectares of land and thousands, millions of the same products coming off the production tape.

According to the discipline novel, Rudolf Spanner's production was trial-oriented - we presume that his aim was to make procedures and prescriptions allowing the production of "soap" from people on a much larger scale - possibly so, but there is no evidence.

In case of deadline: "factory producing soap from human bodies" The point is that nobody is active in the production of specified a "soap", most likely nobody before Spanner has done it, and surely not on a scale like him - for the average man it is unthinkable that human corpses can be transformed into soap for hygiene, laundry or cleaning.

10 kg of soap (made of 75 kg of fat) divided into cubes 200 g gives us - 50 cubes x2 lots = ~ 100 cubes, the standard cube present has about 100 g - it gives us 200 cubes.

Comparing the scale:

- not doing soaps from humans from the beginning of humanity = 0 cubes soaps

- doing soaps of people for respective months = 200 cubes soaps

it can be concluded that it was production Like a factory...

It's unimaginable in a case - 1 ankle like this. soapsin the case of 10 specified ankles soaps And of course for hundreds of bodies converted into soap.

The fact that there was a planned work, conducted systematically on - comparatively - crucial amounts of corpses utilized to produce "Soap" from human fat and utilizing machines that were expected to improve and accelerate these works - prompts us to think that it was industrial and mass production.

Below is the movie and transcription of the movie with fb. I urge you watch a movie and think about your feelings, then read my opinion.

I draw attention to the choice of vocabulary, emphasis, changes in intonation - emotionally, indifferently, factually, and besides the accelerated speech in a given area of content.

In fact, generations They were fooled due to the fact that there was never a production of soap from human fat on a mass scale.

Almost all 1 of us had in school as a reading of "Medalion" by Sophia Nalkowska. And in 1 of the works contained in the "Medalions", specifically in "Professor Spanner", we learn that during planet War II, in Gdańsk Germany had a factory, a soap mill made of human fat and the bodies of prisoners of the camps were utilized to produce this soap.

On January 1, 1940, prof. Rudolf Spanner became manager of the Anatomy Institute in Gdańsk and began buying bodies almost immediately. The Szpaner Institute included bodies of people sentenced to death and executed in prisons in Gdańsk, Elbląg or Królewiec, prisoners of Stutthof concentration camp, or yet patients of the intellectual infirmary in Kocborów close Starogard Gdańsk.

changing to "I'm sorry"

Because 1 has to remember that for the authorities of the 3rd Reich psychiatric infirmary patients were part of the undesirable in society and get them Just Disposed.

And inactive without emotion - but rather materially, as with trivial purchases, errands like bread, butter and milk...

Initially, the Institute paid about 15 marks for the body, of which 5 marks went to employees of the Kokbor intellectual institution, while later this amount was reduced to 9 marks, of which 4 went to employees and the remainder to the hospital's cashier.

But why would they buy these bodies? It was the Institute of Anatomy, which means that the bodies were simply prepared, and then they were made of preview materials, preparations or yet full skeletons, on which students could learn.

The first batch of soap from human fat was melted in February 1944, and the fat for the production of this soap was collected for 5 months, from September 1943. This collected 70 to 80 kg of fat from about 400 bodies, of which yet I did it. 25 kilos of soap.

Apologizing?

And this soap wasn't for sale, it wasn't for human usage either, it was for cleaning surfaces and sect tables at the Institute.

On January 30, 1945, prof. Spanner, Afraid The approaching front leaves Gdańsk, leaving everything, that might disturb him. travel, i.e. preparations, investigation or books. However, He wasn't hiding., worked as a doctor, moved to Hamburg.

In May 1947, he was accidentally recognized by neighbors from a tenement home who Just They followed the Nuremberg trials, were questioned by the court and police, but yet cleared of charges which allowed him to return to his doctor's work.

Notice that in the next thread it accelerates - for what purpose? In my opinion, specified acceleration does not let you to focus on content, does not let you to analyse what you hear, and at the same time we perceive more carefully to not miss anything - it becomes more permanent in your memory - so this image of Spanner stays in your head? Reminds me of the Wikipedia text on Forster - see the notes below.

I besides draw attention to the accumulation of details: always... in besides big... very frequently does not usage gloves or the opinion of Spanner as an eccentric prof. "confirm" any trivial details - and these are listed here...

He worked in Freiburg and then in Cologne, had very good contact with his students whom he met in a coffee shop, which even in the 1950s had specified an unofficial name Kafeszpaner.

Students considered him to be an ever-thought-out professor, who always wears besides much aprons and very frequently does not usage gloves erstwhile conducting texts.

He died. in peace for a heart attack In 1960, for the remainder of his life, claiming he was innocent and the Germans never truly utilized teeth or, for example, the hair of prisoners, which is evidently a lie.

returns to the erstwhile pace

Crazy The popularity of the technological Stories and the fact that they became a school reading place makes the next generations of people inactive believe that Germany had a mill in which they created industrial soap from people and that this soap was in widespread use.

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And my comment on the case:

This reminds me of my 2015 text: Hitler's treasure, Forster's treasure . . . about the writings in the wikipedia bleaching executioner Pomerania - Forster, here we have the same, and I wrote:

As you can see, this communicative didn't end badly.
The author of the note does not preserve c h r o n o l o g i and yet describes to us the very pleasant things so that Forster does not associate badly with us, and we may even remember him well - For specified is the psyche of man, that what a man hears or reads at the end - it is most memorable to him.
The subject of war crimes and courts has been completed, there are pleasant idyllic entries: to this day there is his home, a tiny single family, with his family, a comfortable villa with a garden, the Forsterówka residence.
Finally, note that, according to any sources, he was not executed, but lived at home until his natural death.

Similar? Of course... a lot.

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He died. in peace for a heart attack In 1960, for the remainder of his life, claiming he was innocent and the Germans never truly utilized teeth or, for example, the hair of prisoners, which is evidently a lie.

What's incorrect here? why it is so unstylistic, unordered, NOT ON THE SUBJECT, abruptly emotional - and this on the page described as "read", which suggests that the individual on the movie reads a lot, and after specified a reader 1 can anticipate a decently constructed message - why specified a abrupt phrase "and Germany..." ? in addition - This individual clearly reads from a card, or a prompter, so the text was pre-prepared - it is besides worth remembering due to emphasis and acceleration/release erstwhile reading - what is the intent of this?

In my opinion:

- I'm sorry. First there was this sentence:

He died. in peace for a heart attack in 1960, for the remainder of their lives claiming that Germany had never truly utilized teeth or, for example, the hair of prisoners, which is evidently a lie.

In the text about soap from human fat abruptly comes a thread about hair and teeth - why specified a abrupt change of theme? After all, Spanner was not active in getting hair and gold teeth of victims of concentration camps, that's almost a completely different subject - then why this theme?

What's that for?

this conviction is true, i.e. it contains the truth: we know well that the Germans utilized the hair of prisoners and teeth besides - but gold teeth, due to the fact that the teeth are fundamentally not! Gold teeth are teeth, too. So this conviction is so formulated that we agree with the speaker: Spanner lied about Germans not utilizing teeth and hair! That is, of course, a lie.

- and then in the mediate of that conviction was added the confusion: "is innocent"

So at the end of the movie we are dealing with a real opinion, which is expanded - it consists of almost 30 words (again 30...) and so listening to more statements we are incapable to full measure whether everything in this conviction is true, due to the fact that we are not following the content, but the last wording we understand, due to the fact that the subject of hair and teeth we know for example from school, and in addition the intonation of the talker helps us Pick it up.

And in that conviction we agree with, a short phrase was inserted "is innocent."

Do you understand?

And then after that conviction you agree with - "is innocent" - says:

I'll break it 2 ways:

successive generations of people inactive believe that Germany had a mill in which they created on an industrial scale soap from people and that this soap was in widespread use.

It's not actual - people don't believe it, people don't believe it.

if it were written:

generations of people present believe that Germany had a mill where they made soap from people and that it was in use.

That's right, you gotta agree that people believe it - they believe it due to the fact that that's what investigators and scientists have proven.

So you're saying not about -- you're just saying a false opinion about this -- we remember my post of 2025: A literary statement, or wikipedia, what else are facts and what else is communicative or someone's opinion in the form of a literary statement?

False communicative strengthens the first word of this statement:

Crazy the popularity of technological stories and the fact that from the place they became school reading

Crazy:

1. pejor. «uncontrollable and unstable person»
2. «mentally sick person»

It's easy to make a mistake on the subconscious level and the word "crazy" refers to the discipline itself, then the message would say that"crazy discipline has made generations of people believe in untruth"

[I do not want to compose sentences containing untruth, so I intentionally make jw errors.]

The author gives us a false thesis - a false one, due to the fact that she uses phrases: mass, industrial, universal

In fact, generations They were fooled due to the fact that there was never a production of soap from human fat on a massive scale.

generations of people present believe that Germany had a mill where created on an industrial scale Human soap and that's Soap was in common use.

And on this basis, he creates a movie that seems to exposure this untruth, contained in these sentences claiming that "it was not like this" and "settling" with these Yours false besides - at the end of the message in 1 of the sentences putting the words: "is innocent"...

This reminds me of my 2019 text. On the way of lies - an assassination at Starogard - there was a akin thing, in the beginning, editors put false thesis, and then they extrapolate their hypotheses, babbling without order and composition, the full article to triumph in announcing false - and imaginary by themselves - pseudodiscovery...

Every word and all image falls into the human subconscious, and this woman produces content like a professional factory.

I urge you look at this page and read/ analyse also Comments, very frequently carefully clogged...

Language matters.

wikipedia for Poles:

Medical and pseudomedical experiments in Auschwitz – criminal activity in Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, performed by German doctors, in large part belonging to SS.

They treated prisoners as easy accessible and inexpensive experimental material, conducting experiments in medicine, pathology and genetics. These studies resulted in and served the ideological purposes of Nazi racism theory, and were completely mistrusting the principles of medical ethics, the grounds of which are contained in the Hippocratic oath.

The camp was created skeleton collection 86 prisoners of various types of anthropological, age and sex (29 women and 57 men) who were selected by SS-Hauptsturmführer Dr. Bruno Beger and then transported to KL Natzweiler-Struthof in Alsace and killed.

76 prisoners were transferred to the Reich University in Strasbourg for anatomical research, all were killed.

These studies were based on - and here you anticipate any justification, but it's not truly like - "the intent of Nazi theory", but unstylisticly described, which makes us admit that they "resulted from something", meaning that they had any concrete real reasons, alternatively than their imaginary theories and policies, which we share...

They have completely mistrusted the principles of medical ethics, the grounds of which are contained in the Hippocratic oath

wikipedia for Poles:

Hippocrates’ oath – an oath made by doctors in ancient times, containing the basis of today's medical ethics.

After the crimes committed by German and nipponese doctors during planet War II, The planet Medical Organization at its 1948 Geneva reunion developed a modern version of the oath – a Geneva Declaration, subsequently amended in 1968, 1983, 1994 and 2005.

In Poland, the Medical Promise is now in force, which is part of the Code of Medicine.

German wikipedia

W Germany neither swears nor swears in Geneva are compulsory after obtaining a licence to exercise medical rights, but they are cited as ethical guidelines or a code of honor in discussions on medical ethics.

freelectury.pl/catalogue/lecture/Nalkowska-medalion-professor-spanner.html

synonym.net/synonym/on+mass+scale

ipn.gov.pl/updates/586,Activity-prof-Rudolf-Maria-Spannera-in-light-results-research-Faculty-K.html

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Right Eye: Hitler's Treasure, Forster's Treasure . . .

Right Eye: Stutthof Part 5 (Sobieszewska Island)

Right Eye: Szpęgawsk - about gadzinówka

Right Eye: On the lead of a lie - an assassination at Starogard

Victims.ipn.gov.pl/ofi/with-archive-ipn/updates/15791,In-what-aim-Germany- used-human hair- during-II-war-world.html

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Right Eye: A literary statement, or wikipedia

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