End of War May 8, 1945

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End of War May 8, 1945

May 8, 1945: How Manfred Schirmacher survived the escape and expulsion after planet War II



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80 years ago, erstwhile planet War II ended, the Allies liberated Germany from Nazi dictatorship. Millions of Germans fled west. Manfred Schirmacher was then 7 years old.


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Manfred Schirmacher survived planet War II


He was a kid at the time, but Manfred Schirmacher can't get free of his memories: "To this day, I remember how the bomb fell behind us, and the car with the horses and people sank in the ice," says the 88-year-old. At that time, in February 1945, he was 7 years old and fled on ft with his household through a frozen flood close Könivetsky in East Prussia. A fewer days earlier, they left their village Postnicken.

The invading russian army cut off land routes and the boy, his parent and twelve-year-old brother are on their way, as hundreds of thousands of others, horse and wagon, on foot, transported by trucks, freight trains, ships across the Baltic Sea to the west. The war rages everywhere: there's a shooting going on, low-flying planes racing over the routes, bombs falling all the time.


The household manages to get a seat on the whale ship "Walter Rau". As a child, as Schirmacher recalls, "it was a wonderful experience for me erstwhile I saw many ships in the convoy." But after a good feeling, fear rapidly appears. Ships are attacked by a submarine, but they escape. another ships, specified as Wilhelm Gustloff, are hit and drowned; Thousands of refugees die.


End of war and surrender in 1945.

"Walter Rau" yet moors in Copenhagen, which is inactive occupied by the German Wehrmacht until the surrender of Nazi Germany on May 8, 1945. "On 28 March, we were allowed to land," says Schirmacher with a muted voice, "I got an extra hard-boiled egg from the Red Cross due to the fact that it was my eighth birthday."

Like Schirmacher and his family, millions of people embarked on a journey 80 years ago: they fled Western and east Prussia, Pomerania or Silesia from the war launched by national socialist Germany. Members of the Red Army, liberated Poles or Czechoslovakians besides avenge Hitler's time of business and brutal extermination campaign. Many Germans in the East die from bombs, famine, cold and disease. There are murders, shootings and rapes.

There are different data on the number of victims among German refugees and displaced persons:

"We presume that more than 600,000 to a million people died as a consequence of escape and expulsion," says Gundula Bavendamm, manager of the Escape, Exile and Reconciliation Documentation Centre in Berlin. Over 1.5 million lives are considered unexplained, while another sources frequently talk about 2 million victims.





Poczdamska Conference 1945

A fewer months after the end of the war, in August 1945, the Allies made a decision at the conference in Poczdamska to "ordered resettlement of the German population" from Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary. As a consequence of escape and displacement, the homeland loses a full of more than 14 million Germans from east lands and the German-inhabited regions of Sudeten, Romania and Hungary. 12.5 million of them scope the area west of Odra as refugees and displaced persons.

"About two-thirds of them displaced arrived in the western business zones," explains Bavendamm. 1 3rd went to the business region of the USSR, and so later to the erstwhile GDR. But my countrymen's reception wasn't friendly. "In 1945, there was no “a culture of hospitality” in either the East or the West," explains the historian. Postwar society fought for survival, cities were destroyed. "And although the Germans came to the Germans, they experienced alienity, for example due to different dialects and customs," he describes the situation of Bavendamm.

However, while in the GDR the alleged "residences" were called "exiles" and the dictatorship had to be silent about suffering and experience, the alleged Landsmannschaften was in force in the national Republic of Germany, and the policy provided compensation in the form of equalisation of burdens. "And the displaced people who had to start over with their industriousness contributed to the economical recovery in the East and the West," says Bavendamm.

Manfred Schirmacher stayed in Denmark for another 3 years in camps which were taken over by the Danish government after the war ended. It was not until 1948 that the household received approval to emigrate to Neustadt, Schleswig-Holstein, where the father found work in the meantime.

He was educated as an agricultural machinery engineer, later became an engineer and yet worked at a pharmaceutical company in Bergkamen for 40 years. His wife, Helga, besides escaped from today's Poland as a child:
"In January 1945, I ran distant with my parent and 3 siblings from Nakel in Western Prussia," says 87-year-old. There's inactive a phase of escape in her mind. In Küstrin, the household was accommodated in an anti-aircraft shelter while fighting continued outside. During the ceasefire, the girl saw through the open basement door, a "burning Russian" rolling down the stairs as described. "Sometimes I dream of seeing it." He's talking.

The Schirmachers were active in the activities of regional associations and Protestant church – she in support of women, he in the church choir. They traveled respective times to their old homeland. Her 2 sons participated in the nationwide competition "History of Germany" in the scope of describing escape routes. They besides organized transports with humanitarian aid to their parents' household sides in the areas of present-day Poland and Russia.


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I would point out:


80 years ago, erstwhile planet War II ended, The Allies liberated Germany from the Nazi dictatorship. Millions of Germans fled west.

At the very beginning a brazen lie, which most likely has a reader to "set" the further content accordingly.

This "Nazi dictatorship" was elected to power in a democratic manner with the immense support of the Germans, especially in Pomerania - over 55%.








Germany, even if they did not full support national socialism or Hitler, to the end, they supported the war by far

– says prof. Thomas Weber, German historian at the University of Aberdeen.

"There were many Germans who thought national socialism was a bit bizarre, but Hitler is great. Others have said that we are not wholeheartedly in favour of national socialism or Hitler, but we inactive support the war. Of these 3 elements, the support for the war was the highest, especially at the end of planet War II

– says Prof. Weber.

There is only 1 communicative in Germany present about planet War II: The widespread blame of the “Nazis” and the separation from them, as if pre-war Germans were a different nation than those of the present.

According to a survey conducted there by Die Zeit, more than half (58%) of respondents sign the thesis that "Germany does not bear more work for national socialism, for dictatorship, for wars and crimes than another countries", while only 3% admit that their own household belonged to Nazism.

"I think 1 of the problems is that Germany never truly considered adequate how the war affected Poland or how it affected today's generations of Poles. There are always words that we gotta learn from the past, we gotta make certain that it never happens again, and that is why we can never go against Russia and so on. But there is no akin reasoning in relation to Poland or Ukraine” He emphasizes.



and further distinguishes the Germans from the Nazis:

in Copenhagen, which is inactive occupied by the German Wehrmacht until Nazi surrender Germany on May 8, 1945


millions of people embarked on a journey 80 years ago: they fled Western and east Prussia, Pomerania or Silesia before the war launched by national socialist Germany. Members of the Red Army, liberated Poles or Czechoslovakians besides avenge Hitler's time of business and brutal extermination campaign. Many Germans in the East die from bombs, famine, cold and disease. There are murders, shootings and rapes.

subjugating the occupied nations of the vigilante's gems, by default - the cruel 1 to distance the size of his own crimes and again stressing that Germany did not do it, only Hitler. and "National Socialist Germany"

About German crimes briefly and not about: "time of business and Hitler's violent extermination campaign", but with "avengers" expanded with decimals: "died of bombs, hunger, cold and disease. There are murders, shootings and rapes"




"In 1945, there was no “a culture of hospitality” in either the East or the West," explains the historian. Postwar society fought for survival, cities were destroyed. "And although the Germans came to the Germans, yet they experienced alienity, for example due to different dialects and customs"


In the national Republic of Germany, the alleged Landsmannschaften was in force and the policy provided compensation in the form of equalisation of burdens. "And the displaced people, who had to start over, contributed industriously to the economical recovery in the East and the West,"

another chance to wipe out the fact that Germany started a war on the spoils in Poland and that it did not "industry"But stolen goods, debt relief, pro-economic policy, and of course - no compensation for his crimes towards Poland and not only decided on the financial welfare of post-war Germany.


wikipedia for Poles:




The head of the branch of the Pilecki Institute in Berlin pointed out in an interview with PAP that the papers of the German Ministry of Finance show that Germany paid the biggest compensation to German citizens for their crimes and demolition during planet War II.

"For all the crimes and harm of planet War II, After the war, Germany paid out the most to its citizens. This is the consequence of the data"

Under the BEG, the national Law on Compensation for the Victims of the 3rd Reich of 1953, EUR 48,5 billion were paid, of which 14 billion were paid to victims of the erstwhile German citizens. "These money was granted to German victims: German Jews, politically persecuted people, T4 actions victims - means euthanasia on sick people, or persecuted homosexuals" - she said. "Total German citizens received €89 billion after the war" - added.

Radejowska indicated that all another victims of German crimes and occupations received €65 billion. "This amount includes compensation paid, among others, on the basis of bilateral agreement with Israel, money for victims of forced labour and victims of medical experiments, compensation on the basis of interstate agreements and the aforementioned 1953 law" - she calculated.



The full value of losses estimated in the study on the losses suffered by Poland as a consequence of German aggression and business during planet War II 1939-1945, is PLN 6.22 trillion, i.e. the equivalent of $1,53 trillion by course of 31 December 2021.



EUR 4.28 - 1.45 trillion or EUR 1450 billion



Reparations from Germany in billions of euros - comparison







They besides organized transports with humanitarian aid to their parents' household sides in the areas of present-day Poland and Russia.





























There are different data on the number of victims among German refugees and displaced persons:

"We presume that more than 600,000 to a million people died as a consequence of escape and expulsion," says Gundula Bavendamm, manager of the Escape, Exile and Reconciliation Documentation Centre in Berlin. Over 1.5 million lives are considered unexplained, while another sources frequently talk about 2 million victims.



A million people?
A million dead bodies lying on the roads of western Poland?
According to authoritative data within the Pomeranian Crimes, Germany murdered about 40 1000 Poles -

Poles as they were murdered,


By Wikipedia for Poles About 600,000 russian soldiers were killed during the fighting in Poland.




by German wiki

In the final phase of planet War II, SS guards pursued alleged death marches of concentration camp prisoners for 2 purposes: they withdrew evidence of their crimes in concentration and extermination camps before Allied troops, eliminating victims and trying to preserve at least part of the prisoners' work for another camps.

Of the 714,000 concentration camp prisoners registered in 1944, at least 1 3rd likely died as a consequence of these crimes of the final phase.

Prisoners who were not fit to leave were frequently shot in mass. any of the camp was set on fire by the SS before it left. any death marches ended with disasters specified as the sinking of Cap Arcon, or a massacre, like in Isenschnibber Feldscheune in Gardelegen or in Palmnicken.

Germany from East Land (1945)
After the end of the war in 1945, more than 15 million Germans began to be displaced from the east (Eastern Prussia, Silesia, Pomerania, Neumark) and the south east (Sudety, Danube, Swabia, Besarabia). In many death marches Germans were driven out of their hometowns.

The most celebrated is the death march in Brno, which was attended by 27,000 participants and 5,200 killed, as well as the death march of the Komotau (Sudety) people to Saxony.


or 30%
prisoners died or was killed along the way, only that these people were exhausted from hunger, cold and hard work, I realize that the fleeing Germans were nourished, warm-dressed and full of strength - and 2 million of them died?

That's 10-13 percent out of 15 million.

horse and wagon, on foot, transported by trucks, freight trains, ships across the Baltic Sea to the west.


The most celebrated is the death march in Brno, which was attended by 27,000 participants and 5,200 killed

That gives 20% of the victims - and the departure began on May 31! Not in January at minus 20 degrees Celsius.

I don't believe it. It's impossible if healthy people die so fast and full of strength, then tired people should all die the next day - and they went 11 days.




Stutthof:

On January 25, 1945, in the early morning hours, the Stutthof concentration camp area left columns of prisoners. In total, nearly 33,000 people (11,000 from the central camp and nearly 22,000 from the subcamps) went on the murderous Death March. As a consequence of exhaustion, hunger, sickness, cold and murder, any 17,000 of them lost their lives.

Prior to the departure of the prisoners, a certain amount of camp clothing, blankets and provisions consisting of about 500 g of bread, 120 g of margarine or melted cheese were distributed.

From the beginning, accomplishment by exhausted, starved and frequently sick prisoners seemed impossible. The commandant assumed that the leaving camp Stutthof would cover a way of 140 km in 7 days. The first hours have verified these plans. Marching in vast snowfalls and freezing at times below 20 degrees, prisoners died of exhaustion. And those who pulled from the columns were murdered at the scene by the SS-mans. Very rapidly there was besides a shortage of food. The rations the prisoners received before leaving many of them ate immediately. For the next 3 or 4 days, they had nothing in their mouths.




Death March way from KL Stutthof

During the 11 days of the march to evacuation camps, about 2,000 people died and the same number was reflected by the Kashubians.

The final march after the re-evacuation ended on 12 March, which was after 46 days. Over 5,500 died.


So 51% of the prisoners were killed in the north.








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80 years ago, the eighth. In May 1945, planet War II ended with unconditional surrender all armed forces Europe. present in many places in Germany this day is celebrated as "The Day of Liberation" - besides in Lüneburg, where on the marketplace there is "The Festival of Liberation" under the slogan "No More Fascism! ""with the program for tiny and large will be ensured.


However, the word "The Day of Liberation" remains highly controversial today. There was an eighth in East Germany. May has been celebrated since 1950 as "The Day of the Liberation of the German Nation From Nazi Fascism". At BRD then national president Richard von Weizsäcker He made it up. a word in his 40th speech. Anniversary of the end of the war in 1985: May 8th was Liberation Day.

Freed us all from a dehumanizing strategy of national socialist violence.

"Critics collect this form of commemoration primarily due to the fact that it combines the German people and the victims of the NS government - an equation that many consider problematic. Various actors frequently ask, ‘ Who got out? ’

Anne Frank's Education Institute criticises that "the message that "everyone" has been released is historically incorrect and very simplistic [is].

"Most Germans experienced events in May 1945 as a failure and mostly felt liberated, however, a large part of the German population long stood behind the NS regime, benefited from it or tolerated even inactivity. Is it possible to get free of something that you have voluntarily and frequently enthusiastically supported?

Liberation Day besides suggests striking improvement. But it should take decades before most Germans "free" mentally from national socialism; so many opposition members have been considered since the 20th. July 1944 inactive in the post-war period as a "traitor". For a long time, most Germans saw themselves as victims of war and the system, not as perpetrators or accomplices of Nazi offenses.

For others, for example, for East Prussia, the end of the war did not simply mean the beginning of peaceful days, but escape, expulsion, rape, force and freedom, forced labor, drag or imprisonment.

It was a liberation for millions of people persecuted and oppressed in national socialism: survivors of concentration camps, prisoners of war and forced labour camps, political prisoners, civilians in prisoners from all over Europe - for all people who thus meant 8. May 1945 actual liberation. For many, however, this came besides late: millions of Jews, Poles, russian POWs, Sinti and Roma, and many another persecuted people were previously murdered by national socialists.
May 8 reminds us to remember all these sacrifices, hear their voices and not forget their suffering.

May 8 is not just a day of memory - it must be a task!

Abb: Survivors from Mauthausen cheer US Army soldiers. It's a recreated scene, most likely seven. May 1945, the day after the actual liberation; Photographer: Cpl Donald R. Ornitz © American National Archives and Administration of Records / Public domain




They wrote that "all parts of the German armed forces", which is Wehrmacht capitulated, or "all armed forces" The Allies too...





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Vor 80 Jahren, am 8. Mai 1945, endete mit der bedingungslosen Chapter aller Wehrmachtsteile der Zweite Weltkrieg in Europe. Heute vird diesel Tag in Deutschland vielerorts als „Tag der Befreiung“ begangen – auch bei uns in Lüneburg, wo es auf dem Marktplatz ein „Befreiungsfest“ unter dem Motto „ Nie wieder Faschismus!“ mit einem Programm für Jung und Alt geben wird.
Doch der Begriff „Tag der Befreiung“ bleibt bis heute höchst umstritten. In der DDR wurde der 8. Mai bereits seit 1950 als „Tag der Befreiung des deutschen Volkes vom Hitlerfaschismus“ gefeiert. In der BRD prägte der damalige Bundespräsident Richard von Weizsäcker den Begriff in seiner Rede zum 40. Jahrestag des Kriegsendes im Jahr 1985: “Der 8. Mai war ein Tag der Befreiung. Er hat uns alle befreit von dem menschenverachtenden strategy der nationalsozialistischen Gewaltherrsschaft.“ Kritik erntet diese Form des Gedenkens vor allem, it is possible to die deutsche Bevölkerung und die Opfer des NS-Regimes gemeinsam fast – eine Gleichsetzung, die viele als problematisch empfinden. Immer wied von verschieden Akteuren die Frage aufgeworfen: Wer wurde überhaupt befreit?
Die Bildungsstätte Anne Frank kritisiert, dass “die Behauptung, ‘alle’ seien befreit worden, historisch falsch und stark vereinfachend [ist].” Die Mehrheit der Deutschen erlebte das Geschehen im Mai 1945 als Niederlage und fühlte sich meist nicht befreit, stand doch ein Großteil der deutschen Bevölkerung lange Zeit hinter dem NS-Regime, profitierte von diesel oder duldete es zumindest durch Untätigkeit. Kann man von etwas befreit werden, dass man freiwillig und oft begeistert unterstützt hat? Auch suggeriert ein „Tag der Befreiung“ eine schlagartige Verbesserung. Bis sich aber die Mehrheit der Deutschen intellectual vom Nationalsozialismus “befreite”, sollte es noch Jahrzehnte dauern; so galten viele Angehörige des Widerstands etwa vom 20. Juli 1944 noch bis weit in die Nachkriegszeit hinein als „Verräter“. Lange sahen sich die meisten Deutschen v.a. als Opfer des Krieges und des Systems, nicht als Täter oder Mitverantwortliche an den Untaten der Nazis.
Fürandere wiederum, etwa für die Ostpreußen, bedeute das Kriegsende eben nicht den Anbruch friedlicher Tage, proglog Flucht, Vertreibung, Vergewaltigung, Gewalt und Willkür, Zwangsarbeit, Verschleppung oder Gefangenschaft.
Eine Befreiung war es in vorderster Linie für die Millionen Menschen, die im Nationalsozialismus verfolgt und entrechtet worden waren: die Überlebenden der Konzentrationslager, Gefangene in Kriegs- und Zwangsarbeitslagern, politische Häftlinge, verschlepte Zivilisten aus ganz Europa – für all die Menschen, die jahrelang unter Terror, Gewalt und Repression litten, bedeute der 8. Mai 1945 tatsächlich Befreiung. Für viele kam diese jedoch zu spät: Millionen Jüdinnen und Juden, Polen, sowjetische Kriegsgefangene, Sinti und Roma sowie viele are Verfolgte wurden zuvor von den Nationalsozialisten ermordet.
Der 8. Mai mahnt uns, an all diese Opfer zu erinternn, ihre Stimmen zu hören und ihr Leid nicht zu vergessen.
Der 8. Mai ist besides nicht nur Tag des Erinnerns – er muss ein Auftrag sein!
Abb: Überlebende von Mauthausen jubelln Soldaten der U.S. Armee zu. Hierbei tradet es sich um eine nachgestellte Szene vermutlich am 7. Mai 1945, einen Tag nach der tatsächlichen Befreiung; Photographer: Cpl Donald R. Ornitz © US National Archives and Records Administration / public domain



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