Michael Waver in TVN24 Decision Time Program. The second guest of the program was Ewa Szymanowska from the 3rd Way.
About abortion
– I have Catholic views about abortion as a Catholic. I believe abortion should only be allowed if a woman's life is threatened as a side effect of treatment.
Ewa Szymanowska:
– And don't you think it's a scandal to be in favour of tightening abortion laws and having women have children from rape?
Michał Wawer:
– I think it's a scandal that individual wants to make a decision about the life of an innocent child, based on how this kid was created. He's not guilty of anything. If individual should be punished in specified a situation, possibly even death, is simply a rapist. Not the baby!
– A kid who has been conceived in any way has no views, no defense. A The pregnancy situation from rape did not happen in 2022 once. I would besides propose changing the subject. due to the fact that throughout the campaign, we have experienced that The Left or 3rd Way brought political discussions on crucial matters exclusively to the issue of abortion. It's like it's the key thing we gotta face in Poland right now..
About Ukraine
– It is of course in the Polish national interest that Ukraine should win this war, defend itself against Russia. This, on the another hand, cannot become an argument that convinces us to let ourselves get on our heads. And they let themselves be humiliated. Poland besides has any interests contrary to Ukraine. And this situation, where Ukraine needs our help, needs transit through our territory, should besides be subject to certain conditions on our part.
First of all, settle matters concerning historical policy. Settle matters concerning economical policy as well. It should not be that at the expense of aid to Ukraine, the position of the full Polish agriculture in the applause of the European Union becomes. To guarantee that low quality cereals, low quality soft fruit are brought to the detriment of the Polish agricultural sector.
It is in the Polish national interest, of course, that Ukraine should win this war, defend itself against Russia, but this cannot become an argument convincing us to let ourselves get on our heads and let ourselves be humiliated. pic.twitter.com/sOgfNGja3J
— Michał Wawer (@MichaelWawer) October 21, 2023About historical events with Ukrainians
Michał Wawer following the words of the editor who, in the context of Polish-Ukrainian relations, said that there is no nonsubjective truth, but everyone has their truth:
There is an nonsubjective truth. The nonsubjective fact is that Poles were murdered by Ukrainians during the Volyn massacre. I have these experiences in my household myself. And many Poles have specified experiences.
Editor: – How were Ukrainians treated before the slaughter?
– surely better than Poles during the slaughter! And, of course, there's nothing in the way that we can do this as well. So we can talk about these things, too. And to even apologize for what you owe us. Above all, families of Polish victims should hear from the Ukrainian government “Sorry”. They should see the designation of work for what happened. And let technological research, exhumation! Nothing happened here, unfortunately.
